Wright flap not "much to do with faith"
Friday, March 21, 2008
This really sums it all up. From the Wall Street Journal:
Much has been said, in an effort to excuse the toxic content of Pastor Wright's sermons, about the ways in which his speeches are part of the "black tradition." But most black churches are Baptist, Methodist or independent. They have religious doctrines with a long history. Trinity, on the other hand, belongs to the United Church of Christ, a mostly white denomination defined almost entirely by its social-justice agenda.
This is how the Rev. John H. Thomas, the UCC's (white) general minister and president, recently defended Pastor Wright: "Many of us would prefer to avoid the stark and startling language Pastor Wright used in these clips. But what was his real crime? He is condemned for using a mild 'obscenity' in reference to the United States. This week we mark the fifth anniversary of the war in Iraq, a war conceived in deception and prosecuted in foolish arrogance. Nearly 4,000 cherished Americans have been killed, countless more wounded, and tens of thousands of Iraqis slaughtered. Where is the real obscenity here?" It's easy to see Mr. Obama's attraction to the UCC, and it doesn't have much to do with faith.
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Anonymous, 3:14 PM
Anonymous, 3:14 PM
Jeremiah Wright.. please listen to his whole speech in context and read what Black Liberation Theology means.
This whole mess is started because a man was raised by a white mother and self-identifed as a black man and went to a progressive black church. this is what it is. what we’re dealing with is race issues on both sides and your white priviledge is being confronted.
i pretty much sum this whole thing up as “white people getting nervous when a person of color loudly voices disgust.”
and as for Obama attracted to the UCC because of the war in Iraq.. that's really really dumb. How long has Obama attended that church? long before we FIRST went to Iraq.
Please check your white priviledge at the door, as right now you sound really ignorant of the whole mess of race issues bubble'n under the surface here.
This whole mess is started because a man was raised by a white mother and self-identifed as a black man and went to a progressive black church. this is what it is. what we’re dealing with is race issues on both sides and your white priviledge is being confronted.
i pretty much sum this whole thing up as “white people getting nervous when a person of color loudly voices disgust.”
and as for Obama attracted to the UCC because of the war in Iraq.. that's really really dumb. How long has Obama attended that church? long before we FIRST went to Iraq.
Please check your white priviledge at the door, as right now you sound really ignorant of the whole mess of race issues bubble'n under the surface here.
Jeremiah Wright.. please listen to his whole speech in context and read what Black Liberation Theology means.
This whole mess is started because a man was raised by a white mother and self-identifed as a black man and went to a progressive black church. this is what it is. what we’re dealing with is race issues on both sides and your white priviledge is being confronted.
i pretty much sum this whole thing up as “white people getting nervous when a person of color loudly voices disgust.”
and as for Obama being a member of the UCC only because of Iraq.. well he was a member before the FIRST Iraq war, and no issue was made then.
right now you sound really igorant of the whole mess of racial issues that are bubble'n under the surface of this whole red herring.
This whole mess is started because a man was raised by a white mother and self-identifed as a black man and went to a progressive black church. this is what it is. what we’re dealing with is race issues on both sides and your white priviledge is being confronted.
i pretty much sum this whole thing up as “white people getting nervous when a person of color loudly voices disgust.”
and as for Obama being a member of the UCC only because of Iraq.. well he was a member before the FIRST Iraq war, and no issue was made then.
right now you sound really igorant of the whole mess of racial issues that are bubble'n under the surface of this whole red herring.
I liked the article by Victor Davis Hanson about "the speech Obama should have given." Here's one quote:
"First, today's America has evolved into a multiracial society unlike anytime in our long history. Each of America's groups has unique grievances, based on their own past ordeals.
"So now more than ever in American history, there is need to establish a universal, absolute standard of public discourse in which no individual or group claims extenuating circumstances to demonize other Americans. Otherwise, the bar will have been lowered -- and Rev. Wright will be followed by merchants of hate of every sort, each citing his allowance as a pass for his own hate speech."
"First, today's America has evolved into a multiracial society unlike anytime in our long history. Each of America's groups has unique grievances, based on their own past ordeals.
"So now more than ever in American history, there is need to establish a universal, absolute standard of public discourse in which no individual or group claims extenuating circumstances to demonize other Americans. Otherwise, the bar will have been lowered -- and Rev. Wright will be followed by merchants of hate of every sort, each citing his allowance as a pass for his own hate speech."
Victor Davis Hanson has reveiled his own priviledge and prejudice with that comment.. as well as yours.
Black Liberation Theology calls for the same thing of ", there is need to establish a universal, absolute standard of public discourse in which no individual or group claims extenuating circumstances to demonize other American" and is crying out about how this is not followed and not being done.
Black Liberation Theology calls for the same thing of ", there is need to establish a universal, absolute standard of public discourse in which no individual or group claims extenuating circumstances to demonize other American" and is crying out about how this is not followed and not being done.
I can see why this article is condemning Pastor Wright's extreme sermon. What I don't see is what the connection between his sermon and the UCC being a mostly white denomination is? The UCC can't have black involvement because more then half of their members are white?
Or is the article trying to say that Pastor Wright's sermon was less black because the denomination he is part of has more white people in it?
If there is some point I am missing please elaborate.