tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10515331.post4542763851085426918..comments2008-05-02T16:44:25.450-04:00Comments on UCCtruths: Obama Finally Condemns Rev. WrightLiving the Biblioshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15267015591878790193noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10515331.post-23258558405036499762008-05-02T16:06:00.000-04:002008-05-02T16:06:00.000-04:00I sadly have become just another UCC pew sitter af...I sadly have become just another UCC pew sitter after being told " if you don't like our views, there another church down the street" and " O well we always lose a few when we insist on Open and Affirming". EVERYONE IS A CHILD OF GOD, left, right or center. God speaks through all his children, however imperfect. Inclusiveness of all sorts, not just the left, will make healthy, happier church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10515331.post-16544145260723569612008-04-30T09:51:00.000-04:002008-04-30T09:51:00.000-04:00Joe Sixpack wrote; "OK, I genuinely don't understa...Joe Sixpack wrote; <BR/><BR/>"OK, I genuinely don't understand this one. What possible "favor" could a religious organization want from the White House? I'd expect mutual hands off, accompanied by mutual, wary respect. What more is needed?"<BR/><BR/>Hi Joe.<BR/><BR/>Rev. John Thomas has said in the past that he regularly speaks with the leadership on the Democratic side of the isle in the House and Senate. He also bemoaned the relationships that the "religious right" has with the current president.<BR/><BR/>I think Rev. Thomas would have loved to have Obama (UCC'er) in the W/H so he could have either direct contact with or second hand contact through the Rev. Wright to advance thier "justice" agenda through legislation. (rollback of the ban on partial birth abortion, etc.).<BR/><BR/>Neither is possible now.<BR/><BR/>Obama didn't throw the Rev. Wright under the bus, he threw him down the elevator shaft to sub-level 52.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10515331.post-50886902447128906162008-04-30T08:31:00.000-04:002008-04-30T08:31:00.000-04:00Obama is now a true politician...."Bloviate, blovi...Obama is now a true politician...."Bloviate, bloviate, plattitude, plattitude!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10515331.post-43291798443579308712008-04-30T07:32:00.000-04:002008-04-30T07:32:00.000-04:00Our family left after we saw the hate and intolera...Our family left after we saw the hate and intolerance toward us, and anyone else who disagreed with what the church was becoming - left wing political agendas, hatred of Israel, SSM, etc. Don't you dare question these things. the Bible? We were told "you can believe anything you want (or don't want) in the Bible. Hmm... great things for the pastors to tell your children in confirmation class. <BR/><BR/>Now, with all of this happening, we are sure we made the right decision. We see Obama's campaign imploding, as is the UCC. This is not good for the UCC. However ... maybe the UCC will nominate a new president that will get the denomination back on track. I won't hold my breath, but hey, its a possibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10515331.post-20616997973892756082008-04-30T01:14:00.000-04:002008-04-30T01:14:00.000-04:00Dear "Sad":As Ronald Reagan observed of his Democr...Dear "Sad":<BR/><BR/>As Ronald Reagan observed of his Democratic Party, "I didn't leave them, they left me."<BR/><BR/>It is sad to say that the UCC under its leftist-leadership has abandoned many good and God-loving people. I pray you'll find a new and vital church home.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10515331.post-11014245863713817952008-04-30T00:53:00.000-04:002008-04-30T00:53:00.000-04:00"...-- bring your own pet agenda to church and exp...<I>"...-- bring your own pet agenda to church and expect God to bless it."</I><BR/><BR/>It apparently works when accompanied by the words "prophetic," "incarnational," or "sacred." <BR/><BR/><I>"If the UCC was thinking they would find favor in an Obama White House they just lost it."</I><BR/><BR/>OK, I genuinely don't understand this one. What possible "favor" could a religious organization want from the White House? I'd expect mutual hands off, accompanied by mutual, wary respect. What more is needed?<BR/><BR/>Joe SixpackAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10515331.post-3614114854227244092008-04-29T22:51:00.000-04:002008-04-29T22:51:00.000-04:00The sad thing is so many of us are finding that th...The sad thing is so many of us are finding that the UCC is no longer a place we can call our church. <BR/>It is time, I believe that our family finds a church more suitable to our beliefs - who knew after being a member my whole life it would Obama and JW to show me I don't belong anymore. <BR/>I am too "Conservative" it seems for this open and afirming church. The multicultural church that has pushed me out to make room for the the JW's of the world. <BR/>Sad, very sad for alot of us right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10515331.post-10673621350137486192008-04-29T22:19:00.000-04:002008-04-29T22:19:00.000-04:00The main thing that separates Rev. Wright from all...The main thing that separates Rev. Wright from all the other players is simple honesty--he actually tells us what he's thinking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10515331.post-80915175138415098292008-04-29T16:04:00.000-04:002008-04-29T16:04:00.000-04:00If the UCC was thinking they would find favor in a...If the UCC was thinking they would find favor in an Obama White House they just lost it.<BR/><BR/>......<BR/><BR/>Mr. President, a Rev. Jeremiah is here to see you.<BR/><BR/>Who?<BR/><BR/>Mr. President, a Rev. John Thomas is here to see you.<BR/><BR/>Who?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10515331.post-83484186122256840122008-04-29T15:30:00.000-04:002008-04-29T15:30:00.000-04:00Two weeks ago this action would have worked. Now i...Two weeks ago this action would have worked. Now it only escalates the decline of faith in Obama's ability to make right choices.<BR/><BR/>It is now, after JW has proven himself beyond all doubt to be damaged goods, that Obama finally gets it?<BR/><BR/>What else must be done to identify other areas where Obama has skeletons and what must be done for him to shed them?<BR/><BR/>Nope, sorry, there's just no way I can consider voting for him anymore.<BR/><BR/>I never thought I could support Hillary but there I am.<BR/><BR/>AS for the UCC JW is the latest example of what I've come to call the product of "Outcome Based Religion" -- bring your own pet agenda to church and expect God to bless it.<BR/><BR/>This leaves me with not only a bad taste in my mouth but my foot in there as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10515331.post-2255902163262179242008-04-29T15:19:00.001-04:002008-04-29T15:19:00.001-04:00I watched the press conference. I stand by my com...I watched the press conference. I stand by my comment that Rev. Wright needs to disciplined by the UCC. This whole affair is just terrible for the whole denomination - Wright has undermined the good works of many, many members - Wright is a disaster.<BR/><BR/>Obama was supposed to be nurtured and supported by his mentor. He didn't look like someone who is finding strength and joy through his belief in the love of Jesus via his ordained minister. He was shoved under the bus....<BR/><BR/>This is just awful.<BR/><BR/>Please, no more ads. Hold off on the conversations. Rev Wright needs to refocus on just what it is a minister is supposed to be doing - this isn't it. The UCC needs to get it's act together on this issue. All America has seen what the problem and it's pretty much Rev Wright.<BR/><BR/>It's not very often that a presidential candidate can point to a minister as the reason that a campaign imploded. I had also previously suggested that Rev Wright just go away. He didn't.<BR/><BR/>This is not good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10515331.post-72087697144004116202008-04-29T15:19:00.000-04:002008-04-29T15:19:00.000-04:00I watched the press conference. I stand by my com...I watched the press conference. I stand by my comment that Rev. Wright needs to disciplined by the UCC. This whole affair is just terrible for the whole denomination - Wright has undermined the good works of many, many members - Wright is a disaster.<BR/><BR/>Obama was supposed to be nurtured and supported by his mentor. He didn't look like someone who is finding strength and joy through his belief in the love of Jesus via his ordained minister. He was shoved under the bus....<BR/><BR/>This is just awful.<BR/><BR/>Please, no more ads. Hold off on the conversations. Rev Wright needs to refocus on just what it is a minister is supposed to be doing - this isn't it. The UCC needs to get it's act together on this issue. All America has seen what the problem and it's pretty much Rev Wright.<BR/><BR/>It's not very often that a presidential candidate can point to a minister as the reason that a campaign imploded. I had also previously suggested that Rev Wright just go away. He didn't.<BR/><BR/>This is not good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com